Rmr 9mm jhp bullet info

Here are the loads I tested with RMR’s 124 gr JHP, seated to an OAL of 1.060″:
4.5 gr Winchester 244
4.6 gr HP-38
7.8 gr Accurate No. 7
5.5 gr CFE Pistol

I tested with a Grand Power Stribog w/ Primary Arms MD-20 red dot, and a Glock 45 w/ a Holosun 508T-V2 at about 20-22 yards:

Stribog, 15 shot groups:
Accurate No. 7 – 1 hole inside of an inch with a couple flyers making a 1.75″ total group
Winchester 244 – 1 hole inside of an inch with a couple flyers making a 2″ total group
HP-38 – 1 hole inside of an inch with a couple flyers making a 2″ total group
CFE Pistol – 2″ group, kind of spread.

Glock, 10 shot groups (note, I’m a terrible pistol marksman and these groups should probably be laughed at, The Stribog was braced and rested on a bag. With the Glock, I was shooting off hand, standing up) :
HP-38 – 3″ group
Winchester 244 – 4″ group
CFE Pistol – 6″ group
Accurate No. 7 – 7 ” group

These loads are about as hot as I would load and are at the top end of the charts. I was trying to achieve the velocity required (1150 FPS) for proper expansion.

I would rank how these “feel” as far as felt recoil as such starting with most powerful feeling to least powerful:
Accurate No. 7
HP-38
Winchester 244
CFE Pistol

There is a ton of data in most published reloading manuals and powder/bullet manufacturer websites. My first loads with RMR 124 JHPs was right out of my Nosler manual. Worked great.

FWIW; I pay very little (no) attention to any data I see on a reloading forum, hear from any gun counter clerk, “favorite loads” forum/website, good intended friend, range rat, or gun shop guru. I get 98%+ data from published reloading manuals with some from powder/bullet manufacturer’s web sites. I have been using this, my “Rule #1” for over 40 years and had one squib in ’70, and no Kabooms,. Added to this I record every load and results so I can go back and use that data for further use/experimenting…

My first RMR `124 JHPs looked very similar to Nosler bullets. IIRC I measured same length, weight and profile so I used Nosler data. And like “Reloading 101” says, begin with starting loads and work up…

I have not found an “exact match”, load data specifically for the RMR bullets and I don’t know if any even exists. I did not interpolate anything I used Nosler 124 gr. JHP data for my RMR bullets straight from the book and plunk tested in my guns. I use a lot of Universal, CFE Pistol, Unique, W231, and BR-5 in my 9mm handloads…

Been reloading for a few decades so I trust my judgment and data sources. I had one squib in 1970 and no kabooms or over max loads…

As one of the earlier posts mentioned, the “Fat Ogive” is an issue with this bullet. My EGW 50-round case gauge block will “Fail” any rounds that have an O.A.L. greater than 1.055″. (EGW gauge blocks tend to imitate chambers with essentially NO lead into the rifling.)

When I use the barrel from my SIG P250 as a gauge, ….I find that I can seat the bullet out to 1.110″, and have no chambering issues at all.

In my mind, this is a problem because I own several 9mm weapons, and I would much prefer to load to one standard O.A.L. , and be confident of the functionality in all my weapons. …..Also, “deep seating” 9mm loads can critically effect chamber pressures and limit your max charge. ( …I have a copy of “Quickload”, and it is amazing how a .020″ change in seating depth alters 9mm chamber pressure!)

I love RMR’s products, and over the past 7 years, I have used thousands and thousands of their bullets: ……But in the case of this 124 JHP, I kinda wish that they had a version that featured a more “typical” 9mm ogive.

…….But as a side note, this projectile is PERFECT for my 357 SIG loads, since that round requires a deep seated projectile to meet SAAMI O.A.L. specifications.

“I am looking for 1100 FPS out of the G26 if possible.”

According to Quickload that should be easy to do without going anywhere near max standard pressure.

“Is there any reason to go shorter with the OAL as long as these are the only 2 guns that I will be shooting this ammo out of?”

In my mind no, but that is entirely up to you.

Be advised that RMR recently started offering a new MPR bullet (the MPR Nuke) that expands at lower velocities. I don’t know that expansion is one of your objectives, but if so those would probably be a better choice from short barrel pistols. I intend to buy 1000 and try them in my pocket pistols that don’t tolerate the hotter loads very well.

I’ve been doing extensive testing on the new 124 nuke jhp. Proper oal/ seating depth seems to be the question everyone asks due to no published data for these projectiles. As mentioned in posts above, Nosler 124 jhp is nearly identical, RMR @.542” and Nosler @.545”, so that is a .003 difference between the two. I’ve been testing with a Ruger SR9C 3.9” pistol and a 10.5” Palmetto AR9 pistol. The powders tested are titegroup,HS6, and BE86. Titegroup @4.0 gr 1.10 is very accurate and a safe pressure load in my firearms. HS6@6.8 gr 1.08 was also very accurate and showed no pressure signs at all, good velocity as well(1161 fps ave). Now BE86 is a whole other level of awesome in the 9mm. 5.8 gr@ 1.12(which is .1 gr below Alliants max published) clocked at 1222 fps average from a 3.9” barrel! The combo also yields a .75”- 5 shot group’s consistently @10 yds. I have tested oal variations with this load down to 1.060 with no pressure signs. I’ve went beyond published data with astounding velocity results (1250+)but not quite the accuracy I was looking for. RMR 124 nukes with BE86 seems to be the ultimate affordable self defense ammo combo you can get. The loads mentioned are deemed safe in my firearms but should be reduced by 10% and worked up. From all the testing I have done, 1.125-1.080 seems to be the sweet spot for this projectile depending on your firearms needs and powder charge. RMR nukes for the win!!!

look at post wrong sorry see your lowest was 1.060 needed information for 1.040
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