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Questions on the 180 gr Winchester JHP bullets on sale from RMR a bit ago

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    jpconstableiii
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    I bought 500 of the 180 gr Winchester JHP’s when they were on sale and wish I’d bought more.

    2 questions: (I’ve tried to find answers on line with no luck)

    1. Are these suitable for 10mm velocities?

    2. Of the three bullet types in my batch I recognize the standard 180 gr Winchester JHP which I’ve used for years. The other two are quite similar and are, I think, bonded. One appears to have a wider and deeper hollow point. Anyone know what these two are and how to tell them apart? Any special loading hints or tips?

    Thanks in advance!

    #502727
    Dan Miller
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    Photos would help if they can be posted here. I didn’t order any, but I have ordered and used quite a few pulled or blem bullets (many of which aren’t available as reloading components).

    What are your “requirements” for suitability in the 10mm? I haven’t found a projo yet (save most lead or some plated projos) that I wouldn’t consider “suitable” due to potential leading of the barrel. Haven’t had any issues with jacketed bullets shooting in either the .40 or 10 (and yes, I actually load to 10mm velocities).

    #502733
    jpconstableiii
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    Thanks for the first post and reply!

    I’ve no idea how to upload photos on any website. and wish I could as it would certainly be helpful.

    I’m totally new to 10mm although a 50 year reloader so was looking for wisdom from those that do load 10mm.

    I wasn’t totally certain if most FMJ or JHP .40 bullets would hold up to 10mm velocities and it sounds like they do. I’ll be reloading for a G20 so won’t be going for max 10mm velocities but certainly want more than .40 velocities.

    I think you have it right that these 2 bonded bullets types aren’t typically available for reloading as I searched and found nothing on Winchester bonded 180 grain reloading. I’ll try them with suggested 180 gr JHP loads at the start weight and work them up from there.

    #502878
    Dan Miller
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    Happy to provide what help I can. You may also want to check on the Glock forum. (www.glocktalk.com) since you are loading for a G20. Used to have one but only have the G29 and G40 now. (Plus a 1911).

    When loading for bullets I can’t locate data on, I look around at multiple sources for similar bullets. Then start low and work up as usual.

    MOST of the time, I believe the only issue you will find is terminal performance between bullets designed for the 40 vs 10mm. Bullets primarily designed to work well at 40 cal velocity may over expand or fragment at 10mm velocities and have insufficient penetration. (If you are worried about terminal performance)

    As always YMMV but I’ve not run into an issue with bullets between the 40 and 10mm and I shoot a LOT of pulls and blems.

    #503203
    jpconstableiii
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    Sorry for the late reply but I was at my camp which has little connectivity.

    You just described by what I meant when I earlier posted about “suitability” of the Winchester 180 gr for use in 10mm- will it hold together and be effective?

    What I didn’t describe, and you hit on, was a combination of controlled expansion and weight retention in a heavy animal like a black bear. While I never hope to put any bullet to that use in a handgun for bear better to be prepared year round with the prevalence of the damn things.

    I’m looking at multiple sources for load recommendations and will start low and work up slowly.

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