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January 20, 2024 at 2:56 pm #508075
George B
ParticipantHave loaded thousands of 223 and never had this problem.
Once fired Lake City brass
Expander is .221 diameter.
Once fire ring clears the neck i can push the bullet in deeper by hand.
Does RMS sell the 69gr without the fire ring?July 25, 2024 at 12:27 pm #518020Asking4afriend
ParticipantOK, I’ll bite. What’s a “fire ring”?
August 4, 2024 at 2:25 am #518368Dad_Wil
ParticipantGeorge B
I am also curious… “fire ring” is not a term that I’ve heard in reloading…are you referring to the point where the boat-tail meets the bearing surface of the bullet?
August 6, 2024 at 9:01 am #518426George B
ParticipantIt is formed at the base of flat bullets, and is about .0005″ in diameter. It provides a better seal for the gasses when travelling thru the bore
August 6, 2024 at 1:55 pm #518439Dad_Wil
ParticipantGeorge B
so what you call a “Fire Ring” I would call a “Gas Check”I am also using Lake City brass
I have not run into the issue you are havingmy brass prep routine is to…
decap
anneal
wash
resize case bumping the shoulders back ~.002″
wash again
neck size (Lee collet die)I also run my projectiles thru a Lee bullet sizing die prior to seating
August 6, 2024 at 7:53 pm #518447George B
ParticipantI wouldn’t think we would need to run hundreds of new bullets through a sizer.
But i like your way..Cant get an answer from RMS.August 6, 2024 at 10:16 pm #518451Dad_Wil
ParticipantI agree that it probably is not necessary to run new bullets through a sizing die.
I got the Lee bullet sizing dies as an experiment to possibly salvage some pulled rounds
I was surprised by the variance in the amount of force needed to size the rounds…Just for kicks I ran a box of new bullets through the sizing die and found that some slipped right through while others required a fair amount of force to go through… (a variance in the production process?)
I use the Lee bullet sizing dies to try to remove some of that variance… (not so sure if it helps I do not separate the bullets by the force needed to size them)
Jeff Siewert’s book “Ammunition Demystified” addresses this a bit … when he covers the initial engraving force of the rifling on a fired round.
I’m still learning and adapting my reloading processes …
August 7, 2024 at 8:02 pm #518484Asking4afriend
ParticipantDad_Wil, I resize Zero Bullet .44’s using a lee resizer before using them in revolvers. They typically measure 0.4305″ out of the box and I resize them with a .429 sizing die. They work great in my Marlin at the factory diameter.
Are you lubing the bullets? I asked Lee and they advised applying some Lee case lube before pushing them through the resizer.
August 8, 2024 at 4:07 am #518487Dad_Wil
Participant4 a friend
I’ve done them with and without lubeI size bullets as part of my reloading process because I believe I found a slight variance in the bearing surface diameter when I sized a box of bullets as an experiment
I only size jacketed bullets to reduce any size variance in the rounds. (usually less than .001″ if it exists)
I prefer to just run them without (no lube to wash off)
I will lube if greater force is needed to size themI haven’t done any cast bullets so I cannot speak to that (Lee does recommend their liquid Alox for cast rounds)
RMR, Speer, Hornady, and Sierra make bullets better than anything I would or could castSeptember 29, 2024 at 5:03 pm #520614George B
ParticipantGot around to try loading these shitty bullets….and the verdict is that they are crap and RMS got my money and won’t respond to me
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