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  • #452428
    3006m1
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    Is anyone having to seat these deeper than usual for a M&P 2.0 or other gun? I’ve had to go down to 1.09 coal to keep from engaging the rifling, but not for any of my other guns.

    #452718
    3006m1
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    Never mind.

    #482303
    reggiewallace42
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    I have a Taurus G3C 9mm looking for anyone loading RMR MPR HP 124 gr the min coal is 1.040 in my chamber have not shot with this coal looking for maybe trying some 700x or unique any help with this would be appreciated thank you Reggie

    reggiewallace42@gmail.com

    #482425
    cbmay48
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    FWIW, I seat the “pre-nuke” RMR 124 gr MPR to 1.075” to be able to plunk and spin in my CZ P-09. I run them at the same OAL for my Glock 48, although I could probably seat them longer in the Glock.

    #482459
    reggiewallace42
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    Thank for your reply
    I need information on oal I have to set my aol at 1.040 to stay off lands need safe load to start with and what powder to use.
    is there other 124 hp bullets with similar profiles hornady xtp 124 is ,026 higher than RMR nuke

    thank you Reggie

    #483247
    Sn1911
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    I loaded the 124 gr RMR-NUKE with Hp- 38, COL 1.040″ for my Rami and Cz Ts2. Start load at 3.6 gr and work up to 4.0 gr . I did not chrono any of these load .
    recently and try with Vihta N320 col 1.040″ start load 3.4 gr chrono 927 fps and worked up to 3.8gr of N320 chrono average 1012 FPS.

    #488020
    justMatt
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    i have a Tarus G3c also.. i set my 124 jhp at 1.08 with 4.9gr of cfePistol. it works well.. i set them to 1.10 oal for everything else.

    #494265
    Russell Furford
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    I load to 1.125 in all my normal throat guns. I have loaded from 1.080-1.130 with 4.0 titegroup, 6.4 hs6, 5.5 be86, 5.8 be86,(sd /hd rounds), 4.2 sport pistol and 1.080 and 1.125 were the most accurate with all loads with 1.080 the best. I mostly load 5.5 be86 @1.125 but have recently acquired a palmetto state armory full size dagger and the max coal is 1.085. It is a reasonably stout load but no pressure signs what so ever. Would be curious what quickload would put the pressure at for this load.

    #501743
    Ryan Kosh
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    At 1.085 COAL, quickload puts the pressure at 29,601 PSI using 124gr Hornady XTP and 5.8grains Power Pistol.

    #502426
    rcgrube
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    following is a small excerpt from an article published by Shooting Times. I don’t know the date of print, but if you search “shooting times article 9mm carbine loads” it will pop up. Its an eye opener regarding how dangerous playing with C.O.A.L. is and paying attention not just to bullet weight but the manufacturer of said bullet. Just flat based compared to concave has impact, especially when dealing with a case of such small capacity, small differences have profound impacts.

    Handloaders have to be careful to make sure their loads stay within safe pressure limits, so it is important to follow published load data closely. Changing components can dramatically change pressure. The important things to watch are bullet manufacturer, overall length, brand of brass, and primer. Changing any of these can change pressure. Case brands vary in their capacity, and cases with less capacity will produce more pressure than cases with more capacity if they are loaded the same because the powder chamber will be smaller.
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    Cartridge overall length (COL) is an especially important variable. Pressure increases as the bullet is seated deeper in the case, so handloaders must be very watchful of COL. For example, the Speer Reloading Manual #10 showed a 9mm Luger load that produced 28,000 CUP (copper units of pressure) went up to 62,000 CUP when the bullet was seated 0.030 inch deeper—an increase of 34,000 CUP (121 percent). The details of that load have been lost to time; I asked the folks at Speer about it, but they couldn’t provide further information. But it’s certainly a red flag for closely watching COL.

    Ramshot used to publish a chart in its manuals that showed a 20 percent increase in pressure in a 9mm load when a 115-grain bullet was seated from 1.155 inches down to 1.082 inches COL (0.073-inch change) using Zip powder. Pressure went from about 27,500 psi at 1.155 inches to about 32,800 psi at 1.082 inches, an increase of 5,300 psi. It illustrates how different powders might act differently with different cases, bullet weights, and COLs.

    All that said, the COL has to fit the gun’s chamber, and not all 9mm chambers are the same. That might require some adjustment on the part of the handloader. For example, I have several S&W M&P9 2.0 pistols, and they have short throats that require me to seat the bullets deeper than the recommended COLs in some manuals. When seating the bullet to a depth greater than that listed in the manual, the powder charge must be reduced to keep the pressure the same.

    #503181
    Nathan Dively
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    I load mine down to 1.05. I had cz p10 f’s and p10c that wanted lower seating depts for reliable use. I also tested them with chrono and found i get more consistent velocity at 1.05 seating depth vs. 1.08 out of a cz shadow 2

    #505491
    ventiganrl
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    I’ve loaded my batches of the 124 gr MPR Nukes to 1.060”, with 3.5gr of Hi-Skor 700x. Looking back at my chrono data, I was averaging 1008 ft/sec out of my PSA Dagger. This worked well out of my Taurus 3GC and Ruger PCC as well, but I don’t have the chrono data for that range trip stored on my current phone.

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