[Joe in Missouri]

“…After I size my clean, de-primed brass, I drop it in my Wilson case gauge. It should fall in flush, no pushing and then turn it over and drop out on it’s own…. ”

That info helps thanks.

I am running a progressive press, which means that I am spoiled as hell as to the time to make a round.

I am wondering where to check the case’s that will be time efficient.
FWIW I have noticed with the Wilson gauge that very often small amounts of debris often keeps the loaded rounds from dropping in all the way and that a cleaning solves the problem, but is quite time consuming.

Can you check unsized brass for a bulge somehow?
(as taking brass out every lime, at stage 2 of the press, would be very slow)

Or alternately checking all finished cartridges and then if there are not a large number of them, putting them in a different container for practice rounds (or possibly to be bulge busted and taking the risk of head separation in a know container of them)

I hope this makes sense.
Just trying to figure out where I should go with this as a gun malfunction could get me killed and I do want to address it somehow.

Thanks in advance
Joe

[Joe in Missouri]

UPDATE since I can not edit the previous post….

I am being told to use a “LEE PRECISION 90807, Carbide Factory Crimp Die, 9x18mm”
Not a buldge buster?

Still a bit confused as how to deal with this if I have a lot of bulged cases.

Thanks

[Joe in Missouri]

Thank you guys. I just saw your posts today. 11-21-22

I am a bit confused as to if a Wilcox 9mm case gauge will reject a case with a Glock bulge?

If this ever happens again with a loaded round I would like to verify any physical dimensions that are off and may
have caused the problem.

Going to go look at bulge busters again.
I recall a little bit about doing this.
Thanks again

*** I FOUND THIS: NOTE: 9mm cases are not able to be used in the Bulge Buster because it has a slightly tapered case and the rim is not completely flush with the case

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[Joe in Missouri]

I am a newbie to loading pistol rounds but I did manage to do a plunk and spin test on the round at an OAL of 1.100″.
It is definitely clear of the rifling and spins easily.
I think the round did not have enough umph. (charge) is what caused the problem.
A problem I still don’t understand fully why the slide would not pull back ( I hit it into battery) until I discharged the round.

I didn’t want to use 6g with a plated bullet, but went ahead and added 0.5g to bring the charge up to 6g of Silouette.

So far that seems to have solved the problem and I am getting the 1050-1150 FPS that Berry;s recommends for their 124g hybrid HP.
Not too sure about accuracy yet.

FWIW I am a little east of Springfield Billy. Out in the country.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by Joe in Missouri.

[Joe in Missouri]

BERRY’S 124 grain HYBRID HOLLOW POINTS (plated) and Ramshot Silouette

https://www.berrysmfg.com/product/bp-9mm-356-124gr-hhp

(seems like this should be a separate thread but I don’t see how to create one)

Tried 5.5 of Silouette and the gun did not cycle correctly on the 3rd round and I got a round stuck in the chamber because
the slide was locked.

Rather than play around I went to the 6g of silhouette (OAL of 1.110″) like I use with jacketed pills and so far seems to be working.
Got 1050 FPS out of my Glock 26.

FWIW I did shoot my crony today (not a good day) but it managed to survive my stupidity.

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• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by Joe in Missouri.
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[Joe in Missouri]

I solved this by hitting the back of the slide to put the pistol into battery an fired the round.
The slide then functioned and the brass ejected.

Would love to figure out what was going on though…

I should run some more rounds through with 5.5g of silhouette to see if this can be reproduced.
What I am more likely to do it to go to the 6g that I was using for jacked bullets and see how that works.
Having ammo stuck in my gun scares me from a tactical standpoint.

Any thoughts still much appreciated.

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[Joe in Missouri]

I am not that experienced of a re-loader and the primary mistake I was making was not in recognizing the signs of an under powered load.
I was blaming OAL when it was the 5gn charge of Silouette that caused failure to feed and failure to eject because the slide was not cycling all of the way back. —The guys at RMR bullets were very helpful once I reached out to them for help.

I looked at the RamShot data and worked up to a a 6gn — 9mm +P load with an OAL of 1.120″.

I was getting 1150fps from the 6gn charge in the G17.
With the G26 I only get 1050 fps, and did not feel comfortable using a larger charge.

I hope that this helps.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Joe in Missouri.

[Joe in Missouri]

Have changed the load for 124g MPR hollow points for my G26 and G17:

OAL of 1.120″
6.0g of Ramshot Silouette
Which Ramshot lists as a +P load

I am getting 1150 FPS with this load out of the G17
and 1050 FPS out of the G26
I am hesitant to put in enough powder to get 1100 FPS out of the G26.

[Joe in Missouri]

I finally found this part of the forum was amazed at the data, that I was looking for and needed.

Thanks to all who contributed.

I have a LOT to learn and with this info I think I can avoid most of the big pitfalls.

Oh yea.
I am shooting this ammo in a gen 4 – G26 (baby Glock) and a gen 4 – G17 (full size)
OAL so far is 1.120″ and using 5.6g of Ramshot Silouette
I will crony this as soon as it stops raining. I am looking for 1100 FPS out of the G26 if possible.

Is there any reason to go shorter with the OAL as long as these are the only 2 guns that I will be shooting this ammo out of?
TIA

[Joe in Missouri]

Thanks much.
I would be interested in your data.

Jacob from RMR called and made some suggestions that got things working! 🙂

I went with an OAL of 1.120″ and 5.5 gn of silhouette.

Have not done extensive testing but this looks like it is going to work
but not against tweaking it a bit to see what happens.

You would have to ask RMR about the profile.
I want some of the newer bullets myself.

[Joe in Missouri]

UPDATE:
Jacob Wilcox called and solved the problem.
I did not realize how little I knew……
He suggested a few causes:
Limp wristing the gun.
A stiff slide spring
A funky magazine
Too light of a load.

He made me aware of the Ramshot load data at:

Load Data

I set the OAL to the same as a working hollow point . i.e. the Winchester Ranger cartridge.
with an OAL of 1.120″

I upped the load to 5.5 gn of silhouette. ( I think about 6gn is max and a +P load).
Anyhow I was elated to cycle 10 rounds through the G26 with zero issues!!!
Thanks Jacob
You now have a customer for life.

[Joe in Missouri]

As expected none of the 1.070″ cartridges feed.
It looks to me that it is impossible to use this bullet to make ammo for a 9mm Glock!
Would have been really helpful to have ha a heads up before I got stuck with 6 thousand of them.
Help if you have any ideas, I am out of them.

[Joe in Missouri]

Again not allowed to edit the above post making things messy IMHO……

I went to an OAL of 1.070″ and got a failure to extract on the first round:

Failure to extract at OAL of 1.070″

[Joe in Missouri]

For some reason I can not edit the above post!
This is going to make things messy….

I just wanted to add that I am using 5gn of silhouette.

I also wanted to add a photo of the failure to feed at an OAL of 1.050″ but it doesn’t look like I can do that either.
At least not easily:

Failure to feed at OAL of 1.050″

This really sucks. I am at a dead end with this bullet.

[Joe in Missouri]

For some reason I can not edit the above post!
This is going to make things messy….
I just wanted to add that I am using 5gn of silhouette.

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